Well, both brothers are here!!! I did a cleaning of the one I got 2 days ago. I'm going to have a problem getting any ammo let alone the ammo I'd like to try for the gun. I intend getting some bulk PMC ammo, the Steinel 1100fps copper hp's, and Buffalo Bore flatnose for the guns for starters. I may have to wait awhile. While I'm waiting, I may have the guns refinished. They're beautiful guns, so I don't feel like it's a waste of money. I've ordered the Marshall extended walnut grips (extended to the pinky ext.), and I'll feel lucky I got these which I sprang for just in case these get cut off for sale to California. The Thunder and Concealed Carry are already gone, why I don't know, I mean it's the same gun. Anyway, this worked out.